When a member asks for opinion, etc. they have to be prepared to take all that is said like a mature adult. If you are thin skinned and can't be prepared for all the answers then don't ask. Grow up!!!..

 

I am sick and tired of people getting a pup without using their head (there are hundred/thousands out there) failing to  give it some thought as to the work and sacrifices that go along with owning a pup. Soon they realaize pup's can be a ton of work, sooooo: "I can't handle this anymore and I need to get rid of it" comes into play.

 

Breeding for stupid reasons like: my friends would like a pup from my dog cause she is so nice, etc No health certificates on parents/grandparents AND no knowledge what to do it the mother cannot handle the whole birthing process on her own. If you are not well educataed on breeding there is no reason for you to breed. Leave it to the  people with knowledge.
 

When you get a pup you damn well be willing to give LOVE, CARE and have PATIENCE. Can you afford the vet bills that may come along ?

 

My two previous cockers cost me a total of approx. $6000 because of a fatal condition. I chose to do what ever possible to keep them happy and comfortable until there was nothing left to do that would help them lead a pain free and happy life. They were not throw aways when the going got tough. I would have spent anything to keep them alive. I now have 12 cockers: two years ago the painter left the door open, my little 17 lb b/w ran 100' down a hill into the road and got hit by a truck. Broken hip and pelvic bone, she was treated by a specialist to the tune of $3000+. No regrets she is one of my loves. I now have a 7 yr old that  was given to me in February 2006, we are up to $2500 and will keep going for the rest of her life. She has a degenerative disc disease as well as arthritis and mis aligned neck bones. Do I throw her away? I don't think so. I made a committment and I will keep my word, I made a promise to my animals and I will not let them down!

 

I take owning an animal very seriously and when someone is inconveinced I get really annoyed. It is apparent so many do not have the foggest idea what owning an animal is really like. When they ask and they are given the answer which is what they don't want to hear they get bent. Well, to bad, they asked!

 

Take a good look at the rescues: they were wanted at one time.

 

Rita Martin

 

 

 

I've deleted my responses in this thread because thay are only partaking in an argument.  I feel that Sheila's response says it all perfectly.  Thank you Sheila.

"When a member asks for opinion, etc. they have to be prepared to take all that is said like a mature adult. If you are thin skinned and can't be prepared for all the answers then don't ask. Grow up!!!.."

 

Well, Rita, be prepared to take your own advice.

Being a mature adult does not only mean being able to TAKE "constructive" criticism; it also means having the common decency to treat other people as you would want to be treated.  It means that you've learned that your words can hurt someone else's feelings, whether you meant them to or not, and after going back and re-reading the threads that were mentioned earlier, I think it's obvious that no pains were taken to spare the poster's feelings or to educate them in any way.  If you ask someone if your new jeans make your butt look big, and they tell you no, it's your big butt that makes your butt look big, how does that make you feel?  Who's "mature" in that situation? Just because someone asks for opinions or advice doesn't mean it's open season on their feelings.

It's great that you spend that much money on your dogs. Everyone doesn't have that luxury, though, and just because they can't doesn't make them a bad person.  I have a daughter who is a divorced mother of 3, going to college for her Masters degree, and a son in college also.  If one of them needs financial help, our money goes to them.  That's just the way we do it.  Our dogs don't suffer...not by a looong shot.  My point is that our priorities are different. Not wrong, just different. 
I just refreshed my page, and saw that several posts have been deleted by their authors so as not to turn this thread into a big fight, which is great, and Sheila, your post is VERY well put.

I guess time will tell whether this board stands or falls.  If too many people just get tired of the ugliness, there's always the option of those people starting another board.  I hope it doesn't come to that.

Karen

Shelia people don't think ahead, then when it does not work some one suffers. Like it's the dogs fault it piddles, give me a break. I had a piddler took two years before he stopped. I have a 9 year old who still does once in a while. Do I get rid of them?

 

The word people need to live by is RESPONSIBILITY, I for one am tired of excuses, it's alway someone elses fault. Blame the dog or anyone but them, it is so much easier that way.

 

Are they bad people? NO

Are they stupid people? MAYBE  

Are they ignorant people? YES (understand...ignorant does not mean anyone is stupid)

 

We are all ignorant of many things.

 

To bad someone sees this as an arguemnt. I feel this is a serious discussion with opinions being voiced. It is a hot topic and always will be. This subject should not be swept under the rug cause we don't want to hurt feeling. Personally I don't give a damn about human feelings when it comes to animals.  I care about the dog. I am very passoniate when it come to the dog.

 

Why does a serious discussion have to be considered an arguement by someone. Now that is stupid thinking! No offense intended.

 

Rita

It is an argument because the tone of your posts are argumentative.  Think about what you would like to say and think of a nicer way to say it.  Maybe then you could make your point and actually be taken seriously.  And if you feel that people need to be responsible then start a different discussion (without slamming another member's character) to talk about about pet ownership and responsibility.  But, don't just jump all over somebody when they are doing something that makes you mad.  That is irresponible and very immature

I do treat people as I want to be treated, if I screw up tell me.

 

If I ASK if my jeans are to tight be truthful in your answer. If I don't ask or bring up the subject don't say anything.

 

I don't think anyone was mean or cruel, they voiced their opinion. There is nothing wrong with voicing an opinion. Some opinions are voiced stronger than others.

 

I am quite capable of taking critisum and that is part of being responsible and mature.

 

Life is not a bed of roses, take responsibility for your actions. Don't blame the pup cause it piddles. If your hubby has no patience with a puppy I would be very much concerned about his way of conductiong himsef. My opinion. Patience is very important for a balanced and stable life. My opinion. Could be patience will come with maturity (age) Again, my opinion.

 

This is a discussion not an arguement.

Yeah ... I done with this too .